Managing Your Closet with Organizing Coach Jancee Wright

Lisa: 0:03

Welcome to Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well; the podcast for women who want to lose weight, but are tired of counting and calculating all the food. I'm your host, Lisa Salsbury. I'm a certified health and weight loss coach and life coach, and most importantly a recovered chronic dieter. I'll teach you to figure out why you are eating when you aren't hungry, instead of worrying so much about what you are eating. Okay. Welcome everybody. We have Jancee Wright here with us today. I'm super excited because she is, uh, coached not in a wellness field, typically considered wellness, so she's really gonna add something different to our podcast today. I'm just gonna let her introduce herself right off the bat, and then we'll get going into our conversation.

Jancee: 0:47

Awesome. Lisa, I'm so excited to be here. My name is Jancee Wright. I am a mother of four, and I own a company called Finding Your Fancy, which I am a personal home organizing and life coach, and I help you get out of overwhelm and into action. And I, I love just helping ladies come to clarity of just having the things in their homes and their lives that they love and have purpose. So that's my mission and I'm just excited to be here to share some fun tips and with all of you guys today.

Lisa: 1:28

Okay, awesome. Well, you guys can't see this video, but of course her house is stunning. I just see this tiny little bit in the background and I'm like, it's so pretty. most of you know, I just finished a kitchen remodel and so like I have all these beautiful countertops, cabinets, and. It's not cute because I haven't, I haven't decorated

Jancee: 1:48

Oh, oh my head.

Lisa: 1:50

but just the organization or do you do the decorating part too?

Jancee: 1:55

Oh, I love it both. I think they go hand in hand, so that's so fun. But congratulations on a new kitchen. How fun and exciting is that? I love it.

Lisa: 2:03

it was fun. I mean, that's not true. The remodel part wasn't fun. The having it and the cooking in it is fun

Jancee: 2:10

The end result is amazing, right

Lisa: 2:14

We are going to get out of the kitchen today though, and talk a little bit about our closets, mostly about our clothes for our bodies, because. Our bodies all need clothing at all of our different sizes. Right. So it gets to be kind of a lot though when we are going through any kind of health changes, maybe you're losing weight, maybe you're gaining weight, it feels like you constantly need new clothes. How do you manage all of that? Because as an organizing expert, I'm sure that you know the challenge of the multiple clothing sizes that most women have in their closet.

Jancee: 2:50

Yes, Yes. I love this question so much, Lisa. I've been in hundreds of homes and helped hundreds of ladies. Go through their clothes, and this is probably the biggest hardship, is that our weight fluctuates and then we don't know what to do with the clothes that we have that maybe we wanna fit into someday. And so it brings a lot of shame and kind of depression. Right. And so, I love, I have a process that I use for every area in the home, and I kind of wanted to start and talk about that a little bit, which is to find clarity, right? So I have a six step step process that I teach my clients for every single space. And it's clarify, simplify, sort, systemize, style, and then refresh. So the step one is to clarify. So before your closet, Getting to al your closets, set your clothes down to the things that you love and feel confident in, and you want the own purpose. We first need to clarify how you want to present yourself to the world, and then we'll simplify in systemize and then style your closet. So these mindset and physical shifts that will, they will not only help you create the closet of your. But they also would, will ensure that your wardrobe reflects and supports those bigger goals, which could be right to lose weight. So understanding and elevating your personal style is it's often really just the catalyst for bigger and deeper changes in your life. So once you curate your closet to reflect who you. And where you want to go, you'll show up in the world as a more present and intentional and confident version of yourself no matter what your current weight is.

Lisa: 4:36

Okay. That's amazing. We all want that,

Jancee: 4:38

All right. We all love that. That like, feels amazing. So I wanted to, I, I love to start with a lot of questions with my clients. When we do this, what does the next chapter in your life look like? And what image or identity do you want to step into and project the world? When you leave your closet and leave your room. So your personal style should be a mixture of functional, present, and then your aspirational future. Right? So it's really worth taking the time to clarify and ask yourself lots of questions so that you can define what your style goal is and also your personal goals because they are interchangeable. So asking yourself, Oh, go ahead. Sorry.

Lisa: 5:22

Sorry. Yeah, no. Um, can you just give us an example of like maybe a client example or yourself, what that kind of looks like in real life.

Jancee: 5:33

Yes. So for instance, one of the questions that you could ask is, what do you wanna accomplish this year? So for myself, I have made it a goal that I'm going to do rim to rim for the Grand Canyon. So this has been a big goal that I've had. This year I turned 50, and so my goal, I had five goals before I wanted to turn 50. One, was to do the rim to Ram. So as far. That goes with the clothes that I have. So what are the clothes that I would need to have in my closet in order to do rim, to rim okay, well, I'm probably gonna need some workout clothes. I'm gonna need the shoes. I'm gonna need, um, the, the tank tops or whatever, right? So, Just sitting down and saying, Hey, this is my goal. What are the clothes that I'm going to need for that? And do I have clothes that currently function for that? Or have I gained weight and I need to purchase something that will go with this goal that I have? So that, that's for my personal. Um, as far as for a client, um, I've had clients who have had personal goals of losing like 15 to 20 pounds. Right? And so they. They have maybe some clothes in their closet that every time they look at these clothes, they have the guilt and shame that comes on and that doesn't make you motivated and excited to, to go out and try to lose weight. Like you just kind of have this guilt. You feel guilty that you used to be that size. You used to be able to fit in those clothes, and so, We talk about those goals that they have and where they're at, and we start with where they're at. So let's take out all those clothes that no longer fit you, and they're causing that guilt and shame. And let's put 'em in a pile and let's fold them up and let's put 'em up in a container that says future. And let's put it away for a while. Let, but let's get it completely outta your closet. Let's put it in a storage unit or a storage room. Or the garage or an at somewhere that is outta sight, outta mind and you're just focusing on loving yourself right where you're at. So we, we talk about that and that's, um, I feel like that's key. That's so important to just get those clothes out for

Lisa: 7:42

Yeah. so some of, sometimes the answers to the questions is, Oh, we need to acquire more in this, in this area. And sometimes the answer is, we need to eliminate some of these items,

Jancee: 7:55

And that's why it's really good to ask yourself questions and really get some clarity where, what is my goal and what do I want from this? Right? So, um, There's, there's 10 things that I, I always talk about with my clients about how to clarify what your style is because once you have identified what your style is, then we can move on to, Okay, I've, I've lost weight, or I've gained weight, or these are my goals. What do I really need to just keep in my closet? Right? So, um, the first thing is to, I, I always like to tell my clients to find your style crush, whether that's like. a cute girl in your neighborhood or that's like a celebrity, it doesn't matter. But who is your style crush? We all have style crushes, right? Especially it's women, right? What do you love about their look? What do you love about it? What do you love about their shape or their silhouette or their color combos? And just really thinking. That person and what they layer and their textures. And then you write it down on the notes on your phone. I highly encourage this for everything. So you're like, Hey, what is my style? And, um, I wanna identify what that is. So what is my style? Style is the top of your note and then you're writing down. Well, I really like layers. I really like textures. I really. Pinks or whatever color it is that you like, and then just go on a style finding mission. Honestly, which elements do you want to bring into your own closet? Okay. So just really getting some clarity on what you even like, because a lot of times what we do is whatever influencers are showing us or whatever we're seeing, We think, Well, that looks cute on them. That's gonna look cute on me too, right? So then you buy it and maybe you just don't feel like yourself, You don't feel confident in that. And so really defining, like finding a style crush, somebody that you just love the way that they, they dress and kind of starting there. The second thing is to create a style profile. So just really brainstorming all the ideas that feel really authentic to you. Like is it, an elevated, is it refined? Do you like preppy? Do you like more Bohemian? Maybe more relaxed. Fancy, right. Founding your fancy. Do you like something tailored or natural? Just like really defining that and then just make a mood board and you can cut things out. Magazine pin them off a Pinterest or

Lisa: 10:18

I was just gonna ask, do you recommend like creating Pinterest boards for

Jancee: 10:21

Pinterest. Yeah. So it's like your mood board and you're really getting and defining what kinda your style is. So having. The clarity about your personal style, it will simplify the process of simplifying your wardrobe, and it will also help you shop with intention and avoid that misguided impulses of buying in the future. Just to, just to satisfy how can, how you're feeling at the time.

Lisa: 10:47

Okay.

Jancee: 10:48

The third thing is to become your own fashion icon. So, pull out a few of your favorite outfits from your existing wardrobe, and if you get stuck, ask yourself what you would wear out if you wanted to feel like you were really killing it that day, and which pieces really make you feel amazing. I always encourage my clients, do a fashion show. Do it for your. If you have kids, they're very honest and they'll tell you, That looks amazing, or No, mom, I don't like that. Right? And then just, And the ones that you feel amazing in yourself, take a picture of yourself and put those on the notes on your phone too. This is kind of an inspirational guide that you can add to that style profile. Like, when I wore this, I feel amazing. What is it? Is it jeans? Is it a t-shirt? Is it tight jeans? And a baggier shirt? What? What, what It makes you feel confident in your own skin. The fourth thing is to get really clear about color. So a lot of times we'll buy things like maybe our favorite color is red, but when we get at home and put it on, we don't look right in red. Why are we buying red? Right? So start by picking a really base color. And then adding a few accent colors to really ground your, your wardrobe. So make sure that the colors that you choose can easily, they can mix and match and create lots of versatile outfits. So what colors do you love and what colors look really good against your skin and your hair? And you're gonna know as soon as you try something on. I have clients when we work in their closet, so let's try clothes on and I can just tell immediate. By their facial expressions and how, how they feel. They feel confident and good in it, or they're kinda looking at it like, Oh, I dunno. You know, they're not sure. And then it's like, well, you don't feel comfortable in that color. So just really getting clear on what colors that you love and feel good in. The fifth thing is I would never wear that. So even if you are currently feeling really murky about your personal style, most people can easily identify what they don't want to wear, right? You can immediately go, Oh, I definitely don't wanna wear that. So for myself, I have realized that really high waist of jeans, I don't feel comfortable in them. I have a little bulge right there where my tummy is, and I don't like to wear high waist of jeans. I feel like it really accentuates that. So I found that out for myself when I figured out that, uh, Aris is better for me. So when I'm looking, if it says highrise, like a 10 to 12 inch highrise, I'm like, Oh, that's not for me. I immediately know. Because I know that's not what I like to wear. So really identifying what is it that you're like, Oh, I never would wear that. That wouldn't feel comfortable.

Lisa: 13:32

I was thinking I have blazers in my closet because I think I should wear them. I never, I never wear them. I never wear them. It's so weird. I'm like, Yeah. And I even have like pictures in one, like on my website on in this blazer and I'm like, that looks so dumb. It's not me. I'm like, I just, I don't wear blazers. And then I see cute blazers and I see like fashion people like, Oh, it's so cute. You layer and you the sleeves. And I'm like, Yes, I'm try that and then I never wear them.

Jancee: 14:08

That is so funny that you say that. Cause I feel the same about blazers and I have, I had several in my closet as well. I felt like business, we need to wear a blazer. We need to, you know, And, and if you don't feel comfortable in it, then why are we keeping that right? So, yeah, I love that. I love that. Um, the six thing is to really identify your uniform. choosing a silhouette or a basic outfit formula will make getting dressed each day as easy as really a math equation, right? So skinny jeans, maybe a simple blouse or a sweater. And then just keeping it as simple as possible while retaining your unique style. So for instance, I love dresses and it has taken all the guesswork out of getting dressed by just really just fully embracing a singular style and silhouette that make me honestly just fill my best. So your outfit should flatter your body and make sense for your lifestyle. And then you can use shoes or accessories to elevate or dress down. So for instance, I love dresses, but if I wanna feel more casual, I'll wear tennis of shoes and like baseball cap, right? If I want it to be more dressy, heels, strap sandals, something like that. So just really identifying what do I feel the most comfortable in? Is it jeans and a t? Is it jeans and a blouse what is that?

Lisa: 15:30

and it probably varies by season. I found myself wearing a lot of dresses this summer and skirts, but I get cold easily and yeah, I know I live in California, people are like, Oh, it doesn't get cold there, but it does. It does get cold in Northern California, so I don't really wanna wear 'em in the winter. So I assume that that kind of uniform might change a little. And we're not talking about like a Steve Jobs uniform where you have to wear the

Jancee: 15:55

Right, right. No, no, no. This is like your own personal uniform, right? Something that just takes out all that drama of I what to wear. Like should I wear a dress, should I wear jeans? Should I, you know, whatever. So, yeah. I love I the bringing up the seasonal because. Having like a fall, winter kind of capsule wardrobe, and then a spring, summer capsule wardrobe helped you be able to. You know, combine the two. So, or like, kind of have your own individual style uniform per season. So, for myself, honestly, I have, I have dresses that I can add a sweater, add some boots, but that's something that I became clear on. So just really becoming clear for yourself of what is my, my personal uniform, What do I feel the most comfortable? Number seven is to shop the catalog. So honestly, there is no shame in finding something that really works for you and then just tripling down with that, looking at it and saying, Oh, I love that, that looks good. But I encourage you when you do that to actually be able to try it on and see if you really do feel good. Cause like same thing, like if you look at someone else and think that looks amazing on them, but then you get at home and try it on like the blazer thing, right? You're like try it on. And you're like, Wait, I really don't feel comfortable in this. So shopping the catalog, if you wanted to just copy that style, that feels good to you, but trying it on and making sure that you really do feel amazing in that, Well, it's a good way to go.

Lisa: 17:23

I thought when you were gonna say shop the catalog, you were, you meant like buy all the colors in the thing that fits.

Jancee: 17:28

Oh, no, no, no. Every color I have, like, yeah, right? That is something that we do do, often, like I've had clients where we've, we've had to do that. They love a shirt, so they just buy it in every color that feels simple to them. If that works for you, great. Like this is really just personal. This is about you and filling your very best and be able to walk out just feeling amazing. The eight thing is to keep it really neutral, so identifying your own unique style. Personality. It really takes time and it shouldn't be anything that's rushed. So if you're feeling lost, start by really investing in items that are well constructed. They fit and they flatter your current body. Now, Many of you may be asking, but what if I wanna lose weight? And so why would I invest in all this? But, but what is awesome about investing in just a few staple pieces is as you're losing weight, you can add a belt, you can add. You know, something that will just make it so you can wear it for longer periods of time. So, and you can layer it, mellish it, whatever it is. So just keeping your really neutral blacks, grays, whites, are really good pieces to just invest in and you don't have to spend a lot of money, but just something that the neutral colors are is just a really good way to start,

Lisa: 18:50

do think it, it's just so important to wear clothes that fit your body now, whatever that now is. Yeah. Like we are not motivated to lose weight or even to, you know, eat in a way that we know is the right for our body when we feel not great and our clothes do contribute to that. And so wearing something that fits at whatever weight you are, I think is really critical.

Jancee: 19:15

Absolutely. It makes you feel amazing in where you're at and loving you, where you're at, at the, the current time. Um, and then just identifying a really a signature item. So in identifying one statement piece or a signature look or an accessory. That can help define your unique style personality. So for instance, I have a client who loves really big earrings and she has the funnest, cutest, big earrings, and she looks amazing in it because she loves them, so she just owns them and has that. And so no matter what she's wearing, even if it's just a casual T and jeans, she has these big earrings and that just it, it's her. I also have a client who has. A lot of different color glasses. They're just fun and bold and bright, but it's her and her personality, right? So just identifying a signature item that just makes you feel amazing and really just gives a snapshot of your authentic style. So,

Lisa: 20:11

And both of those are completely also separate from your size, which is perfect.

Jancee: 20:16

Amazing. Right? Yeah. Doesn't, Yeah, it just kind of makes you feel like you, no matter what size you are. number 10 is a try it on before you invest. So thinking of. Stepping outside of your normal look that you normally have. Before you take a risk and splurge on a new outfit, just try borrowing items that are outside of your comfort zone, maybe from your friends or sisters, and that way you can make sure a particular look feels good on you before you. Just end up spending all your hard earned cash, right? Honestly, defining your style, it doesn't happen overnight, but it is well worth your time and your energy needed to get there. So, ditching the dos and curating your closets with fewer, better pieces. Will help you simplify your daily routine, and then it will boost your energy and give you the energy that you need to take on that world. Take on the world by storm, and just feel really confident in yourself. So clarity number one. I think it's really, really important that I kind of identify that.

Lisa: 21:18

Perfect. So when you have something then that, you're like, ah, this doesn't really feel right. What do you do? Do you save it for another day? Do you say, Well, it might feel better if I'm a different size or it might feel better in a different season, or do you just go ahead and let go of that thing right away?

Jancee: 21:38

So this one might hurt a little, but I promise is for your own good is just to dress for the body you have right now. And honestly, just ditch though when I lose the 15 pounds collection, cause this happens so often with women that I work with, focus honestly on just creating a streamlined closet that's just filled. With items that are useful, stylish, and practical for who you are not for. Who you were or who you might be one day. If you have favorite items that you would like, truly be excited and to wear when your body changes, pack them up in just a single storage bin and get them out of your closet. And that same role applies for like maternity clothes. Unless you are pregnant right now, those need to just be packed up and put away into a bin and put somewhere else and marked maternity. So does create a closet that makes sense. Now, whatever. Wherever you are right now is a beautiful thing and just embrace where you are right now and let's get those things that are causing shame and distress out of your closet.

Lisa: 22:50

So you, you are in favor then of saving some of those things that may fit down the road if you're in a weight loss phase, but just not in your actual current closet. We just want, don't wanna see them every day.

Jancee: 23:02

Exactly. I think it's fine to keep them, If you love them and you feel like you're gonna wear them again, by all means keep them. But if you don't even love them, if they, you know, if there's something like it. For instance, when I was pregnant, after I was pregnant, I thought, Oh my goodness, I never wanna see these clothes again. Right? They just felt stretched out and didn't bring good memories. So why would I keep those for another baby or a pregnancy, right? So just really becoming clear. It's really just about that clarity. Like, do I really love this? If you do, go ahead and keep those clothes and put them away, but really be intentional. Do you really want five bins full of clothes that you're gonna fit into someday? Is that taking up valuable real estate in your home or would it be best to just decide, Hey, I'm gonna keep one container. I'm gonna really be intentional, what I wanna keep that maybe I'm going to wear someday?

Lisa: 23:56

I love that because I don't know why this just popped into my head, but I was thinking sometimes. Those clothes actually signify a time in your life that may not have been healthy. For example, if you have things that are smaller than your current size, it could be because when you were fitting into those, you were eating in a disordered way. And so now if you're like, I am eating in a way that'ss healthier for my body, yes, I'm probably going to be dropping some of this extra weight, but I don't wanna eat in that disordered way again. even if we were to be into a similar size, maybe those clothes represent a time in your life that wasn't really truly healthy for you. So it it's possible that we don't ever even want to wear those clothes again. So for a variety of reasons, we might decide that we're gonna let those things go.

Jancee: 24:44

Wow. That's super powerful. I I love that. Yeah, absolutely. And I am, and just really letting yourself go ahead and let those go. What is it really doing? Sitting in a van in your closet, or even in a storage closet? Collecting dust when maybe somebody else could enjoy them. Maybe it's something that, that they would just be so excited to have. Right. So donating them and thinking about what you're giving rather than what you're losing. And yeah, I love, I love that.

Lisa: 25:11

On that donation note is, is that your recommendation? Do you, do you donate to just your local thrift store? How do you manage those clothes that you want to let go out of your house?

Jancee: 25:23

So I always have my clients do two different piles. We'll have one that's like donate, so you're donating it to your favorite local charity, or give to a friend or relative. So those two piles, like you know, somebody that's a friend or someone that you think would enjoy them, that maybe is that size. Go ahead and, give those to that person letting them know, Hey, if you don't love these, then go ahead and donate these. But, I really highly recommend when you do that, putting that bin in your car right away so that you really are gonna take it to a friend. Right. Cause oftentimes we're, that's kind of a way of making another delayed decision, is I, I don't know if. Yeah, I'll just give it to this friend. But really it just is sitting in the corner of your closet still. Every time you're looking at it, you're, it's causing you that shame and guilt, right? So let's the place where you're getting ready every day so that you can show up very best of.

Lisa: 26:21

I also tried for a while, like, Oh, I'm gonna sell these things. These things are still in good condition. They're just not my style anymore. That bag sat there for like nine months,

Jancee: 26:31

Right?

Lisa: 26:31

I'm like, Yeah, I'm not actually gonna sell this. So I just took it to the thrift store.

Jancee: 26:38

Yes, I know that is another category that I sometimes really try to just shy away from because it, that's what happens, right? We're like, Yeah, I'm going to sell these, and then nine months later it's still sitting in your garage. So yeah, if you really are intentional and you wanna do that through Mark or eBay or something like that, fantastic. Do it. But if you know yourself well enough to know you, I'm saying just go ahead and let it go. It's gonna feel amazing to have less anyways,

Lisa: 27:06

can you speak a little more about that? Because I think it's hard for those of us that just feel like, Well, if I get rid of all of this, I won't have air quotes, anything to wear. Right. But the truth is, you get dressed every day, so clearly you do have clothes

Jancee: 27:24

So like a lot of times we think that more having more clothes is gonna give us more decisions. Like we're gonna be able to create more outfits for more. Really, the contrary is true when we have less and we have exactly like the whole clarity thing is about trying to clarify what is my style. When you can walk into your closet and it is so streamlined that you could choose anything in that space and wear it and love it, that feels amazing. And usually that comes from less. That comes from having actual breathing room in your closet where the hangers have space in between each hanger. It really does look more like a boutique when you walk into a boutique and the hangers, you know, you can see exactly where everything is. I have a story to share about this. A few years ago. I actually got. vertigo and we were getting ready to go on this really big trip and I was just like outta commission laying on my bed and I was like, Oh, I don't even have time to pack. How am I gonna do this? I feel so sick, I can't even get up. And it was so fun and I shared this a lot, to be able to call my daughter in and say, Hey, go in and just pack my clothes, pack my clothes, and let's go on this trip. She literally walked in my closet, packed my clothes for me, and we went on this trip. And how often would you be able to do that if you didn't love everything in your closet and it didn't fit you and it didn't

Lisa: 28:53

Mm.

Jancee: 28:55

And

Lisa: 28:55

Yeah. If you're like, Wait, let me see what fits to take on this trip. Like how many times have we done that? Like, Oh, I better try it on before I pack it. But you're saying everything fit, everything was any, any option in there was fine. Whatever she chose was gonna work for me.

Jancee: 29:09

And it's because I've streamlined my closet down to only the things. I love the style, I love the things that fit my current body and my current state. And so it didn't matter what she grabbed, it was going to feel amazing because I knew I loved it and I knew it was going to fit. So I thought taught me a lot. Um, and I shared that story a lot with my clients because taking the time to really find that clarity and really just streamlining your closet will change your life. It really, honestly will.

Lisa: 29:40

So I find that if I put something on that, I'm like, I've had this on several times and I haven't worn it. Like if it's the second or third time I put on a shirt and then I change, I have a bag in my closet that I'm lucky enough to have a walk-in closet. So I have room to have a bag in there, and I just put it right in the bag. Is that a good like way to do it? How often do you let your clients try on something that they don't wear? Does that make

Jancee: 30:08

Yeah, I love that. I love that question. It's so good. I have a couple of tips. So one tip is to take your hangers and turn 'em all backwards. Okay. So you take all your hangers and they're all backwards. Then as you wear things, you put 'em forward. Okay. Yeah, I know it's a little crazy. It's a little crazy. But what it does is it is, as you wear it, you put it forward. So then like after that season, whatever's backwards, you're like, Obviously I don't love this. I haven't even worn it. Right? So that's one way to weed out. Some of the things. The other thing is I have a same thing as you. Like, instead of a a bag, I have a donation basket. If you have room in your closet, it's just a, it's just a basket and it says donate on it. And every member of my family has this in their closet. So as they're wearing something, same thing. If you try it on several times or if you try it on and it's itchy, no, you try it on a sweater and it's so itchy, or it's tie or something. It just goes in that donation basket. And when that donation basket's full, then we can just simply take all those items to our local charity and I've taught my kids that too. And so then after the end of the season, just go in there. We grab all the seasonal things and then we can go donate them. That is helpful when you're trying just to be able to eliminate the clothes that you absolutely know you're not gonna wear it. Like you said, you tried it on three times, you're not gonna wear it if you tried it on three times and you still don't love it.

Lisa: 31:32

Yeah, I just feel like it's helped me keep on top of things that then I don't have to, Then it's not overwhelming to be like, Well, I gotta spend all day trying everything on, because then, then nothing feels good because you're just so annoyed. So I feel like it's, if I am doing a, a steady weed out, it helps me to keep on top of, the things that aren't working for me anymore.

Jancee: 31:55

Absolutely. And I teach small and simple wins. It's a 20 minute win. So basically like if you really wanted to simplify your closet, but you don't wanna take everything out pile on your bed, that feels super overwhelming. It's just start with like, just like your, your tops. Or just your sweaters or just like your jeans. And then just take those out and go through those. Try 'em on, see if they fit, see if they feel good, and 20 minutes. It's interesting how if you set a 20 minute timer it is go time and you're like, Okay, yep, I love this. And you know, immediately when you try something on, I love this or, Yeah, I mean this, it's really. You know, taking the cut. So, um, 20 minute wins is amazing, what you can accomplish in just 20 minutes instead of like the big full picture.

Lisa: 32:42

Yeah, dividing it into categories, that's such a great idea. It's like just organizing one little thing, one section of your closet. Okay. Perfect. Um, changing gears a little bit, my daughters and I have been having this conversation of, as we've been trying on more clothes because they're teenagers and so it's, it's less about me just buying whatever is, you know, the new season from Old Navy and just bringing it home for them. You know, when they're seven or eight, that's what you do. When they're teenagers, not only do they have opinions, but they also have opinions about their bodies, and we've really shifted the conversation to. The clothing trying out for them. They're not trying the clothing to see if, if their body is correct. They're trying the clothing to see if the clothing itself is going to make the cut. And so they've really changed the way they speak about the clothes. They just say, This one isn't right for my body. They don't say, I'm, I'm too big for this or this. My thighs don't look good in. They just have really, I feel like learned and you know, they're teenagers, so not every time, but it's just something that we've tried to shift that language. How do you feel about that and is that kind of language that you've taught your clients as well?

Jancee: 33:59

Absolutely, and I have teenage daughters as well, and I feel like that is so important for them to recognize that you, what fits you and feels amazing for you. Maybe not same as your friend, right? So the current style or whatever maybe looks amazing on your friend, but if it doesn't look and feel amazing to you, it's, there's no shame in that. Like just loving you where you're at. I always encourage my younger clients, I do have some teen clients that I always encourage 'em, same thing with the notes on their phones. Like, let's go through your closet and let's really define what your style is. That same clarity like, what do you really love? Is it the current style or is that like something that just maybe, maybe the the belly shirts or something like that just feels really uncomfortable for you. Right? So deciding what feels most comfortable for you, and then writing those things that maybe you don't have on the notes on your phone. Then when you go to this store, it's interesting how our brains, when we have something written down, like, I just need a black sweater. You automatically just look for a black sweater and then you're trying it on and saying, Oh, this feels amazing. And then you can check that off your list. Right? So, hopefully that answered that question for you, but I, I think it's really important for them to just love them where they're at and not compare, to their friends or what the current style is.

Lisa: 35:24

Yeah, or what our bodies have done in the past. I'm not generally talking to teenagers on this podcast, but that's a time of a lot of change. Your body is, is in constant flux as they're growing. But even as women, I feel like my body was in constant flux for years between pregnancy and nursing.

Jancee: 35:47

Mm-hmm.

Lisa: 35:47

all of that, there just was so much flux. And so sometimes the clothing fit and sometimes it didn't. And I just noticed so much how ready to wear clothing is sometimes cut for my shape and sometimes it's just not cut for me. And I just think you didn't make this audition. Sorry, this

Jancee: 36:07

I love that. I love that you're like, You didn't make this audition. I love that. I'm gonna steal that tagline. That's so great. Because honestly, this is the truth too, is our clothes aren't there to entertain us. Like I honestly, like we sometimes, Yeah, exactly. It's not there to entertain this and neither is our food, our clothes, right? Like it's fun, like if you're into fashion to like accessorize or do whatever, but honestly our clothes are there to, to cloth our bodies and to. Make us just really feel confident with what we're wearing, so for instance, like I just recently went through menopause and there's a lot of changes that happen to your body when you're going through menopause. And I've had to size up and that was, that was something that like I had a lot of shame about. Like this is all, everything we're talking. Really does pertain to a recent experience with myself. Like I had to go in and let go of the lower, the lower size pants and just feel good about getting a, a higher size and being okay with that. And you know what? It's interesting now that everything in my closet really does fit me. I don't really even think about that size. Like it's fine. It fits me. I feel confident in it. I've found things and pieces that I love, and so yeah, just really letting yourself just be where you're at. If you're pregnant, if you're, if you're just getting off of a pregnancy, the body changes that we have, right? As women throughout our life, so,

Lisa: 37:38

I love those bef little before and after videos that are like, how to fit into your jeans. It's like you, you just buy a pair of jeans that in your size, like how do you go from this to that? And like the two small jeans, like the person looks, you know, squished in like a busted cannabis biscuits and then you put on a pair of jeans that actually fit properly on your body and. They just, look amazing. And that person obviously feels amazing. And most of those are like jokes like,

Jancee: 38:06

right. Right,

Lisa: 38:08

but I just think they're so cute and so, so true because how much better do you feel about your body and how much easier is it to have positive thoughts about your body? Because let's be honest, we can work on our thoughts all day long, but if we are wearing a pair of jeans that actually fit us properly, You don't have to work on your thoughts, you just, they're just naturally there. And both Jancee and I are mindset coaches that we are both trained at the life coach schools. So we, we do help our clients change their thoughts sometimes. But I am a big fan too, of just saying, Let's do things. Where we don't have to work so hard to have to change our thoughts and wearing jeans or dresses that fit your body currently is just such an easy way to have an easier thought day about your body, right? Because bad, bad body image days happen to all of us because we're human. That's just what happens. But I just find I have less of them when I'm wearing jeans that aren't cutting in. Cause by the end of the day, if I'm like, Ugh, these jeans, they're not comfortable. Like, Oh, well it's cuz they don't fit properly.

Jancee: 39:14

Exactly. And you just, you feel amazing because you're getting ready. And then what it does is it brings on really awesome thoughts. Like what has happened to me is wow, but I have this really healthy body where I can go out and hike and I can go run still so it doesn't really matter that I have a size up of jeans. Look at the body that I have and the things that it's capable of doing, right? And so those thoughts have really been empowering So love that.

Lisa: 39:43

Okay. Super fun conversation. Do you have anything else to add to this discussion? Anything you've thought of?

Jancee: 39:50

So honestly, organizing and streamlining your closet will honestly change your life becoming really clear on exactly what you love. The things that, you know, as women, we really just are tr, we kind of go with the trends often, but if we can really define what our own unique style is, the greatest compliment you receive from someone is I just you. In what you wear and, and honestly you're like, well, that's because I know my style. I know what I love and I know who I am and I can show up my very best self. Right? So taking the time to really streamline your closets down to only the things that you love and want there on purpose in your closet is so well worth your time. And it will, it will feel amazing to only have those clothes in there that really fit and feel, feel good for you at your current state, whatever you are at. So

Lisa: 40:44

Perfect. Thank you so much. Can you tell people where to connect with you or learn more about what you do? Cuz too bad we don't all live in your town. Which actually, I didn't even ask you where you lived.

Jancee: 40:52

Oh, I, I live in St. George, Utah. Yeah, so southern Utah down by Zion National Park. You can find me over mostly on Instagram @findingyourfancee and fancy fancee. Because my name's Jancee, j-a-n-c-e-e so @findingyourfancee over on Instagram or just on my website findingyourfancee.com usually where you can connect with. I always ton, I.

Lisa: 41:23

That is true. I'm always like, Oh, look what? Look what Jancee's doing today. She probably doesn't know how much I stalk her

Jancee: 41:29

Oh, I love that. That's so awesome. I love that. I want you to walk away from my Instagram page feeling just empowered and that you could do any of those things too. So yeah, I'm always giving free nuggets over there. It's super fun. So I'd love.

Lisa: 41:44

and do you do just one-on-one consults just right in your area or do you do anything virtually?

Jancee: 41:50

Yeah, so it's amazing. I do a lot of virtual organizing for clients. So how that works is you book a consult with me, you show me the space that you're wanting, organize, say it's your closet. And then we, What I do is I, I send product links to you so you can purchase a few things. If you gimme a budget, I stick within that budget, and then we meet on a two to four hour session together. It's just through a Zoom call and I help you organize your closet. So we start with that clarity and then we move from on from there. And we, by the end of our session together, you have your, your closet organized. So if you don't live in St. George, Utah, I've worked with clients all over the country and that's amazing. And then I also do one on one client calls for the mindset part of how do I let go of these clothes? So that's another way that you can work with me. So,

Lisa: 42:42

Okay, perfect. Well, my sister lives in St. George,

Jancee: 42:46

Oh, come visit to go to lunch. That would be awesome. So fun. I love it.

Lisa: 42:52

All right. Thanks so much

Jancee: 42:54

thank you, Lisa. So fun to be with. you.

Lisa: 43:01

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