Feb. 21, 2024
How to Stay Motivated with Allan Misner [Ep. 83]
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Is motivation something you need to get started? Or is it a byproduct of doing an action?
My guest today, Allan Misner helps us decode this and figure out the source or your motivation. We also discuss the 5 mindsets that may be holding you back and how they can be turned into superpowers.
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About Allan:
Coach Allan is a National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM) Certified Personal Trainer, a Precision Nutrition Level II Master Health Coach, and a Functional Aging Institute (FAI) Certified Functional Aging Specialist. He went on to earn specialties in Behavior Change, Corrective Exercise, Performance Enhancement, Fitness Nutrition, and Online Personal Training.
He is the host of the 40+ Fitness Podcast, the largest and longest running health and fitness podcast for people over 40. He has interviewed hundreds of health and wellness experts over a wide range of topics.
He is the author of the award-winning book, The Wellness Roadmap: A Straightforward Guide to Health and Fitness After 40.
In 2015, he launched 40+ Fitness Online Personal Training to help people over 40 improve their health by losing weight and getting more fit.
He and his wife live on a Caribbean island in Bocas del Toro, Panama where they run Lulu’s Bed and Breakfast.
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Transcript
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This is the wellbeing.
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Well live well podcast.
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I'm Lisa Salisbury, and this is episode 83.
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How to stay motivated with Alan Meisner.
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So it was motivation.
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Something that you need to get started.
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Or is it a by-product from doing an action or doing the thing?
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My guest today, Alan Meisner helps us decode this and figure out the source of your motivation.
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We're also going to be discussing his five mindsets.
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That he has found may be holding you back.
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And how you can turn them into superpowers.
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Let's go.
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Welcome to Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well; the podcast for women who want to lose weight, but are tired of counting and calculating all the food.
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I'm your host, Lisa Salsbury.
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I'm a certified health and weight loss coach and life coach, and most importantly a recovered chronic dieter.
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I'll teach you to figure out why you are eating when you aren't hungry, instead of worrying so much about what you are eating.
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Welcome back to the eat well, think well, live well podcast.
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I'm delighted to have Alan Meisner here with me today.
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He is tuning in from Panama, which I think is so fun.
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So originally from the States, but lives there now with his wife and reached out to me.
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We're going to have a great conversation planned, but before we get into that, Alan, why don't you introduce yourself, tell people what you do and kind of a little bit about, about that.
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sure.
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Well, basically, the short of it is I'm an online health and fitness coach for people over the age of 40.
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What I found when I was struggling with my health issues, my fitness issues was it really wasn't at that time.
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Anybody talking about.
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Uh, if you went to a gym, they treated you like you were 20, they gave you the same workouts, did the same thing.
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They originally broke us.
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And then we went home, broke and in worse shape than when we started.
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So I realized that there was a missing element here that I didn't have.
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So I became my own coach.
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I went and got certified as a personal trainer.
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I did all the specialties.
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I thought I needed to fix myself, got myself fixed, and then realized that.
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That was still missing.
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So I decided I would start helping people.
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Uh, I got laid off from my corporate job in, uh, 2017.
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So I went ahead, I wrote a book called The Wellness Roadmap.
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Uh, I went full time into personal training online.
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Uh, coaching online because I told my wife I really didn't want to go back to corporate.
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Um, so we did a complete life pivot.
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Uh, since then I've been coaching online.
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I do the 40 plus fitness podcast.
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And, um, like I said, have an out, a book out and just really out there helping people and enjoying life.
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Great.
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Well, that sounds delightful.
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I think most of my listeners are in that crowd.
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And if you're not, you will be soon.
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So I noticed that is really common in the gym.
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I go to all of the trainers are quite young and I appreciate it.
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I just wonder what they're doing with the older clients, but I haven't hired one of them.
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So I wouldn't be able to say with your health and fitness coaching, then seems like you probably do a lot on mindset as well.
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It's not just the exercises.
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What do you think is, you know, the biggest issue for people's mindset with exercise?
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Yeah, well, actually mindset is probably 90 percent of the problem for most of us, I think we all know that it's like, okay, well, I, I lack willpower resolutions, you know, well, I had one sure, but, you know, listening to this today, well, am I really living up to the resolution I made back January 1st?
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Answers probably, uh, not so much, uh, because that's just the norm, right?
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It's acceptable.
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Resolutions, willpower, those kind of things, they're, they're always lacking, and we almost accept them for being lacking.
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the words that we miss are commitment, And true motivation.
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And so that's where I find the disconnect is.
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So we spend most of our time, most of my time with my clients talking about why they do the things they do, not what they should be doing.
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Until we get to why we're doing what we're doing, we'll never get to what we should be doing in any kind of sustainable way.
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Yeah.
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When I first started health coaching, I did not have my life coaching certification yet.
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I was just, I just was health coaching.
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And so I was primarily talking about food with my clients.
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And I got to the point and I thought, I'm going to ask them all this week.
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I had six at the time.
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I asked all of them.
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Do you need more help with what to eat or why you're eating?
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When you're not hungry.
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And every single one of them, said, it's the why.
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Why do I keep eating when I'm not hungry?
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And I think it's the same for exercise.
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It's the mindset.
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It is way less about what we're eating and why we're overeating that thing.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So lot of times people think I just, lack willpower, and they, I think a lot of people are like, well, I just need to get motivated and then I'll do the thing.
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But you say most of us get motivation wrong.
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So what do you mean by that?
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Okay.
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Well, that's the whole point.
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I'm going to sit here until I'm motivated or Monday is going to come along and then I'll be motivated.
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Uh, or, you know, January 1st will come along months from now and then I'll be motivated.
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Uh, it never comes or it does come and then it just doesn't stick around.
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So the reality is motivation is not something that just happens.
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Motivation is something we'd create.
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Through our own actions, we have to do something first to get motivated.
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And I know that sounds backwards.
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If you're used to the waiting for motivation to show up, but if you do something first, the motivation will come
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Yeah, totally.
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Definitely from the action.
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And I think a lot of people think they just can create it with their thoughts.
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And if you are familiar with the model that I teach, I also believe that motivation comes with action.
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That motivation lands in the result line from your actions.
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So tell us more about that.
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Like how do you do the thing if you don't want to do the thing?
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exactly.
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So it's not so much that you do the thing is that you do something.
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Okay, so the way I want you to think about this is I want you to think about a grid.
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So there's four boxes, and so there's two columns and two rows.
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So on the left column, we have extrinsic or external factors that will help get us motivated.
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So a lot of people know they hire you and they now have a coach.
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And the coach helps hold them accountable, so they show up, they do the thing, they see results.
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What was the thing that they did?
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They hired a coach.
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And then the coach provided accountability, which helps keep them motivated.
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Okay, another way to do this is in the social level of this.
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So the bottom, Bro.
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Top row is leader coach.
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Bottom row of of extrinsic is joining a fitness group.
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It could be an online group like a Facebook group where everybody's kind of talking about fitness and keeping everybody accountable.
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It could be joining a spin class at your favorite gym.
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There's people there.
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There's social.
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They're there, you know, they're going to be there, you know, if you don't show up, they're going to know you didn't show up.
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And so as a result, you find yourself showing up more because you feel this accountability and this social connection to a group that's doing the thing you want to do.
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Again, accountability.
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So most of the extrinsic side of this model is built on accountability.
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Yes, in some cases, a coach can guide and support you.
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And yes, in many cases, the classes or the groups are going to provide some level of support, but it's mostly about accountability.
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That's what we mostly do these things for.
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So that's the extrinsic and that works.
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That works.
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It can work.
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But usually when people just do that, It's project based.
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So I work with the coach.
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I lose the weight.
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I quit the coach.
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I gain the weight.
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I work with a group.
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I'm in the group.
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I quit the group because maybe I move away or something happens.
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I stopped showing up.
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I gained back the weight.
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And so the changes you make a lot of times on the extrinsic side aren't permanent.
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Unless you do more.
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And that's where we move over to the intrinsic portion or the internal.
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And this is the harder part.
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So the other part was pretty easy.
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Pick up, pick up, email one of us and hire us as a coach.
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And you've got that extrinsic accountability starting day one.
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Now, the intrinsic stuff is a little harder.
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A little bit more intricate, but it's permanent.
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When you do it right, it's permanent.
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Now, the first one is on the leader level.
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That's self management.
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So, when you start becoming someone who self manages yourself, well, I should say self twice, but you self manage, then you are the one that gets your gym back together the night before.
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You set your alarm to get up 30 minutes earlier.
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You do meal prep on a weekend because you know you're going to be busy in the week.
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And if you come home and you're tired and you don't want to cook, you're going to call out to Grubhub or Uber Eats or whatever that's available in your area.
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Or you're going to go out to a restaurant.
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You're not going to cook if you're tired.
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So meal prep and things like that are the things that you're doing through self management, understanding yourself.
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To do the right things, but you have to do those things.
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You have to pack the gym bag.
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You have to put it by the door so you trip over it going out.
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You have to do the meal prep and have it available.
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And you have to put it in the microwave and push the number.
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Those things.
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So that's the, that's the self management.
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And it's intrinsic.
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And that's built on a model of self efficacy.
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Which is much more powerful than accountability.
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Now in the social area for self efficacy for the, Internal intrinsic is where we're going to talk about, uh, values and habits.
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So you'll hear someone that starts running.
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Now, when they first start running, they struggle.
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Maybe they join a run club to help keep them engaged.
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And then they get a little bit better.
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They do a few races and they're hit.
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The bug comes in.
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They, they're, they're like, they're hooked.
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So what do they start saying?
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I'm a runner.
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Yeah,
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CrossFit does the same thing.
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It becomes their identity.
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Yes.
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There you go.
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That's the word.
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Identity.
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So now this is part of their values.
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Okay.
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I'm a runner.
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It's my identity as a runner.
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So I socially identify as a runner and therefore I'm going to run.
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What do runners do?
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Runners run.
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So in a model of self efficacy, I have now, if I've pushed over to that portion from the extrinsic, I now have this intrinsic model of self management and identity that will then drive me to do the right things.
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Within the realms of what I just learned as a behavior.
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And so the best model, actually the best model is to fill, all four squares, all four quadrants of that map.
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I was wondering if that was the case.
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well, because here, here's the thing.
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We, we can get ourselves in shape.
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We can be a runner.
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We can do all those things, but then invariably life happens.
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So my co host on the podcast.
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Uh, she's a runner.
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If you asked her, she identifies as a runner.
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She does ultra.
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She does marathon.
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She does stuff.
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However, she's going through an issue right now with her thyroid.
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We, we talk about this on the podcast, so I'm not sharing any personal medical information.
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She doesn't want me to share, but, uh, so she's struggling with her thyroid.
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Well, what's not something you do when you're struggling with something like a thyroid, you don't overstress your body.
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So here's a runner.
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that really can't run.
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Okay.
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So that presents a little bit of a dilemma from a values perspective.
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She needs to shift her mindset a little bit and say, okay, I can't run.
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What can I do?
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Okay.
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That's the self management.
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In some cases she may need a coach.
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In some cases she may need a social group.
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So Facebook that deal with thyroid issues so she can discuss her issues, particularly with other people who.
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Identified as exercisers, extensive, extreme exercisers, and how they dealt with it.
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And so, you, you really need to have foots, basically foots, because there's four.
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But you have to have your feet in all four quadrants if you really want to have a solid model going forward.
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And your goals are going to change as you age.
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Things are going to change in life that are going to put you in different situations.
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And you may find, I'm doing really, really well on my exercise.
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But I'm not doing so well on my nutrition.
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And so while I identify as a runner and I, you know, can self manage my exercise and I, maybe I had a coach at one time, maybe I need a coach again in the future and I have some social groups, you're, you're pretty solid for the exercise, but then you realize nutrition is the next thing you need to tackle.
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And because you're not necessarily self driven for nutrition, because a lot of runners are like, well, I can eat everything I want, right?
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Cause I'm running and now she's not running.
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Maybe a change to our nutrition is necessary.
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And if she's not able to do that on her own, we shift back over to the extrinsic, external.
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We hire a coach, we join some groups, we get that solid foundation of doing, and then we start self management, and then we make values.
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And so the values then could be, I'm someone who eats whole food.
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I eat organic.
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I eat locally sourced foods because I know those are the most nutritious best things for my body and I'm paying attention.
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So I have a good map model in my head and in my body of what serves me and I'm eating those things because that's what my self management says.
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And that's how I identify.
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I eat healthy things.
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I love how you didn't say, your examples weren't like, I eat paleo or I'm a whole 30.
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Or like, I love how you're like, there's ways to identify as a.
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