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Hi, welcome back to the eat.
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Well think, well, LivWell podcast.
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This is episode 32, and we are going to be talking to Liz Roman, who is a gut health specialist and the self-proclaimed poop queen.
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If you get nothing else out of this episode, go follow her on Instagram.
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She is hilarious and has the best, most informative reels.
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We chat here today about constipation gas, bloating.
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No, you don't have to deal with these things.
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They are common, but not normal.
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We talk about all the things you may be experiencing without realizing they are actually related to gut issues.
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So listen to the very end also for how to get a bonus clip from this interview.
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Welcome to Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well; the podcast for women who want to lose weight, but are tired of counting and calculating all the food.
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I'm your host, Lisa Salsbury.
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I'm a certified health and weight loss coach and life coach, and most importantly a recovered chronic dieter.
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I'll teach you to figure out why you are eating when you aren't hungry, instead of worrying so much about what you are eating.
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Before we jump into this interview with Liz.
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I want to remind you, I am still gathering names for interest in my upcoming group program.
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That link is in the show notes.
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Lots of information on that in my last couple of episodes.
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So I won't do that again, but Get yourself on that list and you'll get a special bonus for you.
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And if you want to bring a friend, she'll get that bonus too.
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I am super excited to have Liz Roman as my guest today.
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One of her reels came up for me on Instagram recently and I was like, what?
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When she does her little spiel about moving your bowels one to three times per day pain free, I'm like, I love you.
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That's, that's it.
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I've gotta have you on the podcast.
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So, um, I'm gonna let her introduce herself and then we will jump into our conversation about some gut.
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Awesome.
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Well, thank you so much for asking me to be on.
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I'm excited to chat today.
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So I am Liz Roman.
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I am the co-owner of Fit Mom Lifestyle.
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We are a team of functional practitioners that work with clients all over the United States, the UK and Canada.
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And so we mainly focus on helping clients get to the root cause of their digestive issues, hormonal imbalances, autoimmune things like that.
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Uh, I know that Lisa, you talk so much about.
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Anti diet culture here, right?
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I'm with you.
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Mm-hmm.
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On Quint fad dieting, please nourish your body.
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That's a lot of what we do as well, because we want you to nourish your body, and that means eating enough to give your body what it needs to help you thrive in life.
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And so, yes, one of my big passions is helping women and just the general population understand that constipation is not normal.
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We need to be moving our bowels one to three times a day pain free.
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because there can be many repercussions of constipation.
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So brief backstory about myself, I was chronically constipated for eight years, ended up with a diagnosis of Hashimotos, which is an autoimmune thyroid disease, and constipation is one of the earliest signs of hypothyroidism or Hashimotos.
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And of course, I went to.
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Doctor after doctor saying, I'm not losing weight.
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I have fatigue, skin issues.
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I'm so uncomfortable and constipated, I need help.
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Everything they said was normal.
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Mm-hmm.
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You guys can, you're not, we're not videoing this, but there's my ear quotes there, you know, normal.
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Yet I feel totally crappy, you know?
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And.
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That's why I do what I do today because I was given a colonoscopy in college and the answer after that was to take MiraLax and to do a low FODMAP map diet and that should resolve my issues.
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But that wasn't the root of what was going on.
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And for me it was a lot of gut dysbiosis, imbalances in the gut, a lot of inflammation in my body.
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And fast forward to today doing the work that I do now with all of my clients.
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I'm off of thyroid medication.
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Feel amazing.
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I've lost over 50 pounds, kept that off since 2014.
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And I just wanna help as many people as possible improve their health.
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Uh, and I believe that all starts with the guts.
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Is awesome.
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I have also some chronic constipation in my history.
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I think, um, what I found with mine is it was probably a little bit more of the chronic dieting that I was doing and the just kind of weird foods that I would.
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Jump on with those bad diets, like just not excellent.
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Um, I g got a lot of relief with, I was definitely magnesium deficient, so that helped a lot when I learned about that.
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But it is really frustrating when you go to mainstream medicine.
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I distinctly remember.
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Talking to a doctor.
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It was like a first consultation getting set up with my new insurance, and I was like, you know, I really struggle with constipation.
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And she literally handed me a photocopied handout that had been photocopied a thousand times.
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The quality was horrendous, and it told me too, you can guess it, drink more water and add fiber.
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I'm like, do you think I'd be asking you if I hadn't tried those things?
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Like everyone knows those first things to do.
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So obviously we wanna get into a little beyond that because if you are chronically constipated and you've Googled it even one time, you know like, let's start with some water.
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It's pretty obvious.
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So.
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Let's get a little farther in.
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How do you know if your chronic con Well, like, I don't know if we wanna strictly keep it to constipation, if we wanna kind of go into some general gut health, but, I think there's some confusion.
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How do we know if the gut is where the issue is or if you know, how do you know if you need help in that area or if it's, you know, kind of something else.
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Yeah, so I think this is a really great question and there are certainly other symptoms that we can experience beyond just constipation.
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I do think it's important to define constipation too, for the listen.
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Conventional medicine says if you're pooping less than, you know, three times a week for longer than three months, you're constipated.
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There's different forms of constipation.
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It's not just which, can I just interrupt and say that's horrible?
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No one feels good at three times a week.
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No.
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No.
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Okay.
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Carry on.
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You feel like a whale?
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Let's be honest, that's very backed up, I mean, it's anybody who's experienced constipation, you just know if you haven't gone for a few days, you feel heavy, you feel bloated, you feel distended, right?
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And.
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There's many repercussions of this.
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You know, when we think about women, especially in our female hormones, estrogen and excess, estrogen that's sitting in the waste set for excretion from the body, recirculates, uh, as well as other toxins, metabolic waste products, right?
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And so this is inflammatory to the body.
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We're full of toxins.
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Now we may be experiencing worse p m s symptoms, acne.
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Signs of estrogen dominance, resistance to weight loss, holding more weight in our belly or the hip.
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The back of the arms, things like that.
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But we can tie a lot of things back to the guts.
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you know, if you've ever researched or just Googled gut health at all, you've probably heard the saying by Hippocrates that says, all disease begins in the gut.
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So beyond just constipation, other GI symptoms, That you may experience that are kind of classic telltale signs that things are, you know, not balanced in the guts would be heartburn, gerd, acid reflux, upper GI symptoms here that can be kind of a sign of low stomach acid and then downstream as things move through.
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This would be bloating, gas, really smelly gas.
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I think, you know, if we were eating quickly, as a lot of people do, we're busy.
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We're moms, we're entrepreneurs, we're just working.
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We got a lot of things going.
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Sometimes we don't always take the time to sit down, slow down, be present with our food, which we should be doing by the way.
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Uh mm-hmm.
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then we swallow air.
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And of course that can bring on either belching or gas, but I'm talking about gas in the way that you can clear a room.
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You don't wanna be around yourself.
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It's very smelly.
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Um, so mm-hmm.
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those are uncomfortable things.
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And then it could be other forms of alternating motility or dysmotility.
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So here's where we look at.
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I could be not going to the bathroom at all, or I could be straining to go small, pebble like stools.
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Uh, feeling like I don't completely go to the bathroom.
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I'm not satisfied, like I fully emptied my bowels.
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Could be loose stools, diarrhea.
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Here's where maybe you're alternating, uh, constipation to diarrhea.
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Abdominal pain is another big one.
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Um, because that can kind of tell us if there's issues with bile.
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For example, some people who have gallstones or gallbladder issues and bile becomes peanut butter.
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Like you can experience a lot of abdominal pain when they're trying to digest fats or it's going right through them, like a slip inside.
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So those are some of our classic GI symptoms.
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But when we think about how all of this correlates systemically in the body, We can tie asthma, allergies, hormonal imbalances, migraines, sleep issues, joint pain, brain fog, fatigue and energy issues, all back to some sort of imbalance in the gut.
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So there's a lot of things that, you know, especially too when we look at Hashimotos, right, or other, just autoimmune conditions, anxiety and mood disorders, all of that can be tied back to the gut as well.
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90% of our neural transverses are made in the gut.
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80% of our immune system is in the gut.
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Sinus issues, chronic, you know, drainage or feeling like you're sick all of the time.
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We always wanna look at the gut and see what's happening here and how is that then kind of like a domino impacting other things in the body.
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So, That's very important.
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There's so much and, and a lot of things that you listed there, people would be like, well, yes, that's obvious, but some stuff like bloating or you know, gas, they're like, oh, that's normal.
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Everybody gets that.
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And I think then normalization of women being bloated, just because you have some bloating maybe around your period doesn't mean that.
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Normal and doesn't mean it has to happen either.
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And I think that gets really confusing cuz you're like, well isn't that just part of digestion?
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Like No, it's, it's not this whole episode is, you know, feels a little t m I.
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I'll tell you, when I got off like the crazy diet foods and really balanced things out, I was absolutely shocked how much less gas I had.
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Like not just during the day, but like gas pains or like just, I just don't, and the natural, normal thing is to release gas while you sleep.
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And so.
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Don't think you're not releasing.
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You are and that's fine.
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But yeah, you actually don't have to deal with that during the day, which is like shocking to me.
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And I think of all the like, I think it's mostly just like the made for dieting shakes and things, you know, bars and just, just garbage that I used to eat to try to lose weight.
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And I think, yeah, that was really messing me up.
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I always say this like the, the.
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Farts or the whey gas.
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Right.
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A lot of people eating, oh yeah.
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A lot of, uh, I gotta get my protein, or that's my meal replacement.
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And it's all of these artificial ingredients and even like, let's say painted on things, right?
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Fortified vitamins and minerals.
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They don't act the same in the body as one ingredient.
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Whole foods, natural fibers that your body knows what to do with.
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Mm-hmm.
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So yeah, they can sit in the gut and then ferment, create that distension that you feel this bloating and.
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Then when you do have gas, it's very smelly because of the methane and the sulfur that ferments.
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It's funny you mentioned, you know, passing gas in your sleep, because I'm actually working with a couple right now and I asked her this past week, you know, so one of the big complaints that you had was that.
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He passes gas and it wakes you up because it smells so bad.
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I was, how is set going?
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And she said, you know what, it's actually much, much better.
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I'm like, okay, well there's a win.
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Yeah, We, we don't want those things.
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And I a hundred percent agree with what you mentioned, that so many of these things people think, you know, it's just normal.
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Oh look, it's just my body.
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Oh, I've, I've just always been that way.
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I don't poop every day a couple times a week.
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I've just always been that way.
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It's not normal.
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It's common, but not normal.
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And digestion should be a quiet event.
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We shouldn't feel really full after our meals.
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We shouldn't feel like we need to sit on the couch for 30, 45 minutes.
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You know, we should still have energy to continue on our day, continue working and being productive.
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Food should energize us, in fact.
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So if you are struggling with any of those things, you know, e exactly what you're saying with your diet.
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That's the first.
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evaluate what you're eating, processed foods compared to one ingredient, whole foods that can really, really nourish your body and provide it with the nutrients that it needs.
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Yeah.
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Do you think bloating is the most common thing?
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Women assume is normal?
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I would say that, yes.
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Um, bloating and then I would also say fatigue.
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Mm.
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Mom life, right?
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Oh, I've had kids.
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oh, it's part of aging.
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Hashtag mom life.
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Just like the way they normalize.
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We need a glass of wine to deal with our kids.
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Mm-hmm.
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you know, I, I just, we can't get down with those things.
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Uh, I'm a mom, busy entrepreneur.
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I only have one, so I cannot attest to having multiples, and I recognize that's a big difference for some people.
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But no, you, you should wake up in the morning.
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You should have good energy.
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You should feel rested.
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You should have energy throughout your day.
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And of course, depending upon what time you wake up.
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How many hours of sleep you're getting, you know?
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Yeah, you, you should be tired by, I'm tired by 8 30, 9 o'clock, but I also get up at four 30 or five, but I generally feel really good all day long, and a lot of that has to go hand in hand with things that are helping my body.
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Like build my body up, right?
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And provide an energy I never demonize food because I also don't believe in some practitioners or gut people will talk about like, just remove all of these foods.
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And yes, there are foods that are pro-inflammatory, but we're also human.
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And I wanna think about sustainability for my clients.
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So, you know, having some more moderation with some of those fun foods, if you will, and kind of watching the amount of.
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Things that drive inflammation in the body.
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But yeah, I, I, I mean, outside of bloating, I, I really think for women, the fatigue is one of the biggest things that I wish that we could shout from the rooftop.
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That you don't have to feel that way.
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Yeah.
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And you think, balancing the gut and attacking from the gut angle can really help with fatigue, and that's something people don't really connect.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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When we think about our guts, I mean, it is the foundation of our health when we ingest food, right?
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We, we are eating one ingredient, whole foods.
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Let's say you have the best diet out there.
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And you still feel like something is just off.
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I just don't feel a hundred percent.
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This would be some sort of insufficiency in the gut, so maybe low stomach acid.
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It might be low pancreatic enzyme function, so we're not getting the digestive enzymes we need to really break down, digest, and absorb the nutrients.
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It's one thing to ingest.
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Food, and it's another thing to absorb all of the, the nutrients that we need.
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So this is, you know, kind of where we get down into the weeds of, Hey, is it something that's happening functionally?
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Again, stomach acid, bile, pancreatic enzymes, uh, is it leaky gut?
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Is there inflammation in the guts?
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Right?
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Food's getting.
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Into the bloodstream or part large particles of food into the bloodstream.
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The immune's constantly reacting here to say, this shouldn't be here.
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Could be also toxins or other bacteria, viruses, and things like that.
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So when we have, you know, an overactive immune system, the body is sending a lot more energy to take care of these things to, you know, wherever it, it's happening rather than our brain, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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uh, and so, If you're properly breaking down, digesting and absorbing nutrients, we don't have a lot of mineral imbalances here.
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You, we shouldn't be experiencing fatigue or brain fog.
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Forgot what word I was looking for.
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Right?
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Went into a room and didn't remember why I went there.
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Because your body has the nutrients it needs and it's able to use them at the cellular level because of proper digestion.
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Hmm.
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Fascinating everything.
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I'm like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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Tell me more.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I mean, and it's so good.
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I mean, I feel like, well, I'm 47 and I, I do sometimes feel like I have that, I don't know if it's brain fog or, you know, we attribute it to age that walk into a room, forgot what I'm doing.
00:17:04.355 --> 00:17:08.555
Um, I definitely feel more fatigue, but I also think.
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I would be a lot worse if I wasn't doing what I'm doing with my Nu Nutrition and Activity Schedule.
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Would you consider that there are some symptoms that come also with pre perimenopause and that sort of thing?
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Sure.
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I mean, different phases of life all bring different hormonal seasons, right?
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Because if we're approaching, uh, menopause day, which is average age is 51, there's different fluctuations with estrogen.